2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW

4 recalls — 26 complaints

10V470000 Oct 5, 2010
SEAT BELTS
WINNEBAGO IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2006 THROUGH 2011 WINNEBAGO VIEW AND ITASCA NAVION MOTOR HOMES BECAUSE THE DINETTE AREA SEAT BELT RESTRAINTS ON THOSE VEHICLES FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARD NO. 210, "SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY ANCHORAGES." IN A COLLISION, THE GENERATED CRASH FORCES CAN CAUSE THE RESTRAINT'S ATTACHMENT TO TEAR AND ALLOW THE ANCHOR TO SEPARATE FROM THE BODY OF THE VEHICLE.
Remedy: WINNEBAGO WILL ADD ADDITIONAL SEAT BELT ANCHORAGES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON NOVEMBER 12, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT WINNEBAGO AT 1-800-537-1885.
2,496 vehicles affected
07V163000 Apr 10, 2007
EQUIPMENT:RECREATIONAL VEHICLE/TRAILER
ON CERTAIN MOTOR HOMES, THE EXTERIOR SLIDEOUT STORAGE DRAWER CAN INADVERTENTLY SLIDE OUT DURING NORMAL HIGHWAY OPERATION.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL INSTALL A SECONDARY CATCH ON THESE MOTOR HOMES. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 15, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT WINNEBAGO AT 1-614-585-3535.
1,582 vehicles affected
05V573000 Dec 28, 2005
STRUCTURE:BODY
ON CERTAIN MOTOR HOMES EQUIPPED WITH KWIKEE BRAND ELECTRIC STEPS, THE STEPS MAY HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED WITH DEFECTIVE STEP CONTROL UNITS.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE KWIKEE STEP AND REPLACE THE STEP CONTROL UNIT, IF NECESSARY, FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON DECEMBER 23, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT WINNEBAGO AT 1-800-537-1885.
193 vehicles affected
05V265000 Jun 6, 2005
SUSPENSION:REAR:SPRINGS:AIR SUSPENSION SYSTEM:SPRINGS/BAGS
ON CERTAIN MOTOR HOMES EQUIPPED WITH OPTIONAL REAR SUSPENSION AIR BAGS, THE UPPER MOUNT CAN MOVE AND CONTACT THE TIRE.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL INSTALL A REAR SUSPENSION AIR BAG UPPER MOUNT REINFORCEMENT KIT. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 17, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT WINNEBAGO AT 1-641-585-6939.
89 vehicles affected
POWER TRAIN Aug 15, 2015
WHILE STOPPED IN TRAFFIC - WENT TO ACCELERATE AND NOTHING. ENDED UP BEING THE TRANSMISSION. I PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE AT 30K. HAD THE TRANNY FLUID AND FILTER CHANGED. JUST SPENT 7000 K ON REMANUFACTURED TRANSMISSION. IT HAD A TOTAL OF 53307 MILES ON IT. THIS IS A CRAP VEHICLE. EVEN THE MERCEDES MECHENIC. TOLD ME TO GET RID OF IT AS SOON AS I CAN. SAID THE TRANNY WASN'T MADE TO HAUL A CAMPER. THIS FAILURE HAPPENED IN ATLANTA, ON TOP OF THE THIRD BRIDGE HIGH INTERSTATE (285/85). WE STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR AN HOUR ON A FRIDAY AT 5PM. THEN SET ON TOP FOR 8.5 HOURS WAITING FOR TOW TRUCK.
TIRES Nov 23, 2014
PEGASUS ADVANTA CLT TIRE BLEW OUT WHILE DRIVING. INSPECTION SHOWED CASING FAILURE ON OUTSIDE EDGE OF SIDEWALL. FURTHER INSPECTION REVEALED INCOMPLETE DOT NUMBER - NO MANUFACTURE DATE. LAST 4 DIGITS WERE BLANK (EMPTY CIRCLES). THE DROP DOWN TIRE LIST DID NOT LIST PEGASUS SO I PICKED API SINCE THEY WERE THE PEGASUS MANUFACTURER. THIS COMPLAINT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE GLADIATOR - I COULD NOT PROCEED WITHOUT MAKING A SELECTION. *TR
WHEELS Jul 12, 2014
LOST WHEEL COVER ENROUTE. *TR
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Jun 24, 2013
2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW. ENTERING THE HIGHWAY, TRANSMISSION STAYED IN 1ST GEAR CAUSING A DANGEROUS SITUATION. THE CARS BEHIND STACKED UP BEHIND ME, AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY --- I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO MERGE ON TO. DEALER SAID ITS THE ABS MODULE THAT IS BAD. I HAD THE AMBER TRIANGLE, WHEEL PSI,CHECK ENGINE AND ABS LIGHTS ON. VEHICLE SPEEDOMETER WAS INOPERATIVE ALSO. THE COST WILL BE $3300 DOLLARS AND TWO WEEKS WORTH OF WAITING ON THE PART. 1800 MILES FROM HOME. I CAN DISCONNECT THE BATTERY AND RECONNECT.AND DRIVE. IT DOES SHIFT BUT AFTER A FEW MILES THE LIGHTS COME BACK ON AND NOW STUCK IN THAT GEAR TILL STOPPING AND REPEATING PROCESS. *TR
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Jun 24, 2013
2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW. ENTERING THE HIGHWAY, TRANSMISSION STAYED IN 1ST GEAR CAUSING A DANGEROUS SITUATION. THE CARS BEHIND STACKED UP BEHIND ME, AS WELL AS THE HIGHWAY --- I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO MERGE ON TO. DEALER SAID ITS THE ABS MODULE THAT IS BAD. I HAD THE AMBER TRIANGLE, WHEEL PSI,CHECK ENGINE AND ABS LIGHTS ON. VEHICLE SPEEDOMETER WAS INOPERATIVE ALSO. THE COST WILL BE $3300 DOLLARS AND TWO WEEKS WORTH OF WAITING ON THE PART. 1800 MILES FROM HOME. I CAN DISCONNECT THE BATTERY AND RECONNECT.AND DRIVE. IT DOES SHIFT BUT AFTER A FEW MILES THE LIGHTS COME BACK ON AND NOW STUCK IN THAT GEAR TILL STOPPING AND REPEATING PROCESS. *TR
WHEELS May 11, 2011
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW. WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE WHEEL HUBCAP DISENGAGED. THE FAILURE OCCURRED ON NORMAL ROAD SURFACES AND BUMPY ROADS. THE HUBCAP WAS PURCHASED FROM THE DEALER AND INSTALLED BY THE CONTACT. ALL FOUR WHEEL HUBCAPS WERE EVENTUALLY REPLACED EIGHT TIMES. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 7,000.
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM Sep 15, 2010
2006 DODGE SPRINTER/WINNEBAGO VIEW. CONSUMER EXPRESS THEY BELIEVE MOTORHOME IS A LEMON AND REQUEST RELIEF UNDER ACT 297 OF 1993 *TGW THE CONSUMER STATED THE RV HAS BROKEN DOWN ON THREE OCCASIONS FOR THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM; A BROKEN RESONATOR. *JB
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM Apr 10, 2010
DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, AND TURBO RESONATOR CRACKED ON 2006 ITASCA NAVION (DODGE SPRINTER CHASSIS/MERCEDES DIESEL). THIS HAS HAPPENED TWICE, RESULTING IN DECELERATION NECESSITATING STOPPING AND CALLING SERVICE, OR IF YOU CONTINUE TO DRIVE, PROGRESSIVE DECELERATION UNTIL THE VEHICLE QUITS MOVING ALTOGETHER. NOT VERY SAFE AT ALL, AND THIS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE MANUFACTURER WHO, LIKE TOYOTA, CONTINUES TO IGNORE THIS COMMON, NOT COINCIDENTAL, POOR PART DESIGN. WARRANTY REPLACEMENT ISN'T ENOUGH AFTER FAILURE AND NEAR DEATH! LET'S GET SOME ACTION: WRITE YOUR STATE'S ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU WITH COPIES OF MERCEDES. THIS NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED! *TR
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Jun 4, 2009
RECALL NOTICE FOR WINNEBAGO VIEW MOTOR HOME EXTERIOR SLIDEOUT STORAGE DRAWER. CONSUMER IS STILL WAITING FOR REPAIRS. *NJ THE CONSUMER STATED WHILE DRIVING ONE NIGHT ON THE INTERSTATE, THE DRAWER SLID OUT/OPEN. ANOTHER SERIOUS SAFETY PROBLEM WAS THE CEILING LIGHTS. WHEN THE CEILING LIGHTS WERE USED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, THEY MELTED THE LENS COVER. THE DEALER SUGGESTED THAT THE CONSUMER REMOVE ONE OF THE LIGHT BULBS AND BUY A NEW COVER. THE CONSUMER STATED THE LENS WAS THIN AND CAN NOT WITHSTAND THE HEAT GENERATED BY THE BULBS. THE CONSUMER STATED HE REPLACED THE BULBS WITH FLUORESCENT FIXTURES. RECALL 07V163000 *JB WHILE DRIVING, THE CONSUMER SMELLED AN ODOR AND THEN THE ABS LIGHT ILLUMINATED. SHORTLY AFTER, THE CALIPERS RELEASED, BECAUSE THERE WAS DIFFICULTY BRAKING. THE CONSUMER TOOK THE RV TO A MECHANIC AND WAS INFORMED THE ABS SENSORS WERE DESTROYED. UPDATED 06/15/09.*JB
EQUIPMENT:RECREATIONAL VEHICLE/TRAILER Jun 4, 2009
RECALL NOTICE FOR WINNEBAGO VIEW MOTOR HOME EXTERIOR SLIDEOUT STORAGE DRAWER. CONSUMER IS STILL WAITING FOR REPAIRS. *NJ THE CONSUMER STATED WHILE DRIVING ONE NIGHT ON THE INTERSTATE, THE DRAWER SLID OUT/OPEN. ANOTHER SERIOUS SAFETY PROBLEM WAS THE CEILING LIGHTS. WHEN THE CEILING LIGHTS WERE USED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, THEY MELTED THE LENS COVER. THE DEALER SUGGESTED THAT THE CONSUMER REMOVE ONE OF THE LIGHT BULBS AND BUY A NEW COVER. THE CONSUMER STATED THE LENS WAS THIN AND CAN NOT WITHSTAND THE HEAT GENERATED BY THE BULBS. THE CONSUMER STATED HE REPLACED THE BULBS WITH FLUORESCENT FIXTURES. RECALL 07V163000 *JB WHILE DRIVING, THE CONSUMER SMELLED AN ODOR AND THEN THE ABS LIGHT ILLUMINATED. SHORTLY AFTER, THE CALIPERS RELEASED, BECAUSE THERE WAS DIFFICULTY BRAKING. THE CONSUMER TOOK THE RV TO A MECHANIC AND WAS INFORMED THE ABS SENSORS WERE DESTROYED. UPDATED 06/15/09.*JB
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING Sep 23, 2008
IN JANUARY 2007 I WAS DRIVING MY 2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW DOWN I-95 TO ORLANDO FLORIDA. SOMEWHERE IN GEORGIA THE TURBO FAILED AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND I COULD NOT GO OVER 60MPH IN TRAFFIC FLOWING AT 75MPH PLUS. IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS. I TOOK THE WINNEBAGO TO A DODGE DEALER IN ORLANDO AND AFTER 6 DAYS OF UNEXPECTEDLY STAYING IN A HOTEL THEY REPAIRED THE PROBLEM. THIS SAME INSTANCE HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER OF 2008. I STOPPED FOR FUEL AND I WAS DRIVING ON THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY AND ACCELERATED AND THE SAME PROBLEM HAPPENED AGAIN. IMMEDIATELY THE I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS AND AGAIN THE TURBO FAILED AND THE THROTTLE WAS EXTREMELY SLUGGISH AND I COULD NOT GO OVER 60 MPH. IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC IT LITERALLY TAKES 30 SECONDS OR SO TO ACCELERATE 10 MPH IN SOME INSTANCES. THIS IS A DESIGN FLAW AND A DANGEROUS SITUATION. FURTHERMORE IN ANOTHER INSTANCE WATER SPILLED INTO THE ELECTRIC PANEL UNDERNEATH THE REFRIGERATOR IN THE RV AND IMMEDIATELY CAUSES SPARKING AND AN ELECTRICAL FIRE. WE WERE DRIVING DOWN HILL WITH COMPANY AND THREE DOGS AND THE FIRE WAS EVENTUALLY EXTINGUISHED. I HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS MACHINE SINCE PURCHASING IT INITIALLY AND IT IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY PAID. THIS VEHICLE IS A POOR DESIGN AND I HAVE ONLY HAD IT FOR 2+ YEARS AND I HAVE HAD 20+ PROBLEMS THAT HAVE NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE BOTTOM *TR
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ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Sep 23, 2008
IN JANUARY 2007 I WAS DRIVING MY 2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW DOWN I-95 TO ORLANDO FLORIDA. SOMEWHERE IN GEORGIA THE TURBO FAILED AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND I COULD NOT GO OVER 60MPH IN TRAFFIC FLOWING AT 75MPH PLUS. IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS. I TOOK THE WINNEBAGO TO A DODGE DEALER IN ORLANDO AND AFTER 6 DAYS OF UNEXPECTEDLY STAYING IN A HOTEL THEY REPAIRED THE PROBLEM. THIS SAME INSTANCE HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND IN SEPTEMBER OF 2008. I STOPPED FOR FUEL AND I WAS DRIVING ON THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY AND ACCELERATED AND THE SAME PROBLEM HAPPENED AGAIN. IMMEDIATELY THE I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS AND AGAIN THE TURBO FAILED AND THE THROTTLE WAS EXTREMELY SLUGGISH AND I COULD NOT GO OVER 60 MPH. IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC IT LITERALLY TAKES 30 SECONDS OR SO TO ACCELERATE 10 MPH IN SOME INSTANCES. THIS IS A DESIGN FLAW AND A DANGEROUS SITUATION. FURTHERMORE IN ANOTHER INSTANCE WATER SPILLED INTO THE ELECTRIC PANEL UNDERNEATH THE REFRIGERATOR IN THE RV AND IMMEDIATELY CAUSES SPARKING AND AN ELECTRICAL FIRE. WE WERE DRIVING DOWN HILL WITH COMPANY AND THREE DOGS AND THE FIRE WAS EVENTUALLY EXTINGUISHED. I HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS MACHINE SINCE PURCHASING IT INITIALLY AND IT IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY PAID. THIS VEHICLE IS A POOR DESIGN AND I HAVE ONLY HAD IT FOR 2+ YEARS AND I HAVE HAD 20+ PROBLEMS THAT HAVE NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE BOTTOM *TR
Fire
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING Aug 18, 2008
FAILURE OF TURBO RESONATOR. THE PLASTIC PART HAS TWO ELEMENTS, HELD TOGETHER BY GLUE. THEN THE TURBO KICKED IN THE RESONATOR CAME APART AND THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER FORCED IT INTO "LIMP HOME MODE", WHICH MEANT FREEWAY TRAVEL AT 25 MPH!*TR
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:OTHER FUEL TYPES:TURBO/SUPERCHARGER May 5, 2007
2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW SUFFERED TURBO RESONATOR FAILURE ON I-75 BETWEEN KNOXVILLE, TN AND CHATTANOOGA, TN. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SINCE VEHICLE WOULD BARELY CLIMB THE HILLS, REQUIRED MANUAL DOWNSHIFT TO 1ST GEAR, TOP SPEED 45 MPH GOING DOWNHILL. SEVERE ACCIDENTS ALMOST OCCURRED FOUR TIMES. EXTREME POWER LOSS. *JB
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:OTHER FUEL TYPES:TURBO/SUPERCHARGER Jan 25, 2007
VEHICLE ENGINE COMPUTER SENSED ERROR IN WENT INTO A LIMP HOME MODE CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO BE UNABLE TO GO FASTER THAN 50MPH ON THE FLAT ROADS AND LESS THAN 35 MPH ON HILLS. MODE IS DANGEROUS ON THE HIGHWAY AS COMES ON WITHOUT WARNING (NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT).
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION Nov 3, 2006
2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW BUILT ON A DODGE SPRINTER 3500. CURRENT MILEAGE 7655.. TRANSMISSION HAS FAILED THREE TIMES WHEN CLIMBING STEEP HILLS; VEHICLE ROLLED BACKWARDS, IN ONE INSTANCE CAUSING CONSIDERABLE BODY DAMAGE. FIRST FAILURE AND REPAIR ON 6/23/2006; TORQUE CONVERTER REPLACED. SECOND FAILURE AND REPAIR 9/15/06; TRANSMISSION AND TORQUE CONVERTER REPLACED. THIRD FAILURE 11/1/2006; SAME PROBLEM. *AK *JB
FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE Oct 2, 2006
DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING 70 MPH, THE VEHICLE LOST POWER CAUSING ENGINE SPEED TO REDUCE TO 40 MPH. THE PROBLEM HAD HAPPENED 4 TIMES AT VARIOUS SPEEDS. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR SERVICE. EACH TIME THE RESIGNATOR (PART # 5137154AA) WAS REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED.
VISIBILITY:REARVIEW MIRRORS/DEVICES:EXTERIOR Sep 7, 2006
DT*: THE CONTACT STATED THE SIDE MIRRORS WERE NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT VIEWING OF THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE. ALSO, THIS MADE IT DIFFICULT TO MOVE OVER INTO ANOTHER LANE AND WAS MORE DIFFICULT ON THE PASSENGER SIDE.
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:DIESEL Jul 26, 2006
VEHICLE LOSES POWER AND BARELY ABLE TO MAINTAIN SPEED ON GRADE, ENTRY TO FREEWAY, FROM STOPS, ETC. THIS IS REFERRED TO AS "LIMP HOME MODE" IN TYE YAHOO GROUPS WINNEBAGO-NAVION GROUP. A MAJORITY OF THE OWNERS ARE EXPERIENCING THIS DIFFICULTY RESULTING IN A SAFETY HAZARD. *JB
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION Jul 5, 2006
MY 2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW MOTORHOME SHUTS DOWN UNEXPECTEDLY WHILE DRIVING. EVERY SYSTEM GOES FLAT LINE AND I HAVE TO COAST OVER TO THE SHOULDER, PUT THE VEHICLE IN PARK AND THEN RESTART THE ENGINE. *NM
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:DIESEL Jun 29, 2006
DRIVING UP A HILL AND THE MOTOR LOST POWER. AS HILL BECAME STEEPER, MORE POWER WAS LOST. *JB
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE Jun 28, 2006
MY 2006 WINNEBAGO VIEW KEEPS GOING INTO A REDUCED POWER LIMP HOME STATE. VERY DANGEROUS ON THE INTERSTATE.. I CAN'T MERGE PROPERLY AND VEHICLE WON'T GO OVER 60 MPH. VERY LITTLE POWER AT HIGHER SPEEDS. NOT POSSIBLE TO DRIVE WITH FLOW OF TRAFFIC. THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT SOONER OR LATER. *NM
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:POWER ASSIST:HYDRAULIC Mar 2, 2006
I HAVE A 2006 DODGE SPRINTER CHASSIS WITH A WINNEBAGO MOTOR HOME COACH. THE BRAKES ARE SO SOFT THAT THEY GO TO THE FLOOR AT TIMES. I HAVE HAD IT TO THE DEALER TWICE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND THEY TELL ME IT IS NORMAL. I AM SURE THAT SOMEDAY I WILL HAVE AN ACCIDENT DUE TO THE BRAKES FAILING. *JB
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Feb 1, 2006
I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BRAKING SYSTEM ON MY DODGE SPRINTER 3500 MOTORHOME TO NO AVAIL. THE DEALER CONTINUES TO TELL ME THAT A SOFT PEDAL IS ACCEPTABLE. WHEN BRAKING I HAVE TO PUMP THE BRAKES TO GET A HARD PEDAL. I KNOW THAT SOME DAY I WILL GET INTO A PANIC STOP SITUATION AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE AN ACCIDENT. *JB
SUSPENSION:FRONT Jan 13, 2006
I SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT THE NEW LINE OF RVS FROM WINNEBAGO, CALLED THE "VUE" AND THE "NAVION" IN THEIR ITASKA LINE. ACCORDING TO THE STICKERS IN THE ONES I SAW, THEY HAVE A NET CARRYING CAPACITY THAT IS UNDER 350 POUNDS. THAT IS THE WEIGHT OF TWO AVERAGE ADULTS. THERE IS THEREFORE NO ROOM FOR ANY CLOTHING, FOOD, OR OTHER ITEMS; TRULY AN OVERLOADED UNSAFE DESIGN. *NM
STRUCTURE Jan 13, 2006
I SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT THE NEW LINE OF RVS FROM WINNEBAGO, CALLED THE "VUE" AND THE "NAVION" IN THEIR ITASKA LINE. ACCORDING TO THE STICKERS IN THE ONES I SAW, THEY HAVE A NET CARRYING CAPACITY THAT IS UNDER 350 POUNDS. THAT IS THE WEIGHT OF TWO AVERAGE ADULTS. THERE IS THEREFORE NO ROOM FOR ANY CLOTHING, FOOD, OR OTHER ITEMS; TRULY AN OVERLOADED UNSAFE DESIGN. *NM