2003 MCI D4505

2 recalls — 0 complaints — 8 TSBs

EQUIPMENT

Defect Description

MCI IS RECALLING 1,893 MY 2002-2008 D MODEL AND MY 2001-2008 E AND J4500 MOTOR COACHES EQUIPPED WITH ZF TRANSMISSIONS. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR THE SHIFT SELECTOR TO MALFUNCTION AS A RESULT OF A CELL PHONE OR RADIO BEING PLACED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SHIFTER CONTROL PAD.

Consequence

WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THE SHIFT SELECTOR MAY MOVE INTO REVERSE WITHOUT DRIVER KNOWLEDGE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy

MCI IS WORKING WITH ZF AND HAS CREATED A SOFTWARE UPDATE THAT PROTECTS AGAINST THE POTENTIAL FOR TRANSIENT ANALOG OR DIGITAL SIGNAL INTERFERENCE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING NOVEMBER 2008. .OWNERS MAY CONTACT MCI AT 1-800-333-0371 AND ZF AT 1-734-416-6200.

1,893 vehicles affected

Manufacturer: MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC

ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:DIESEL

Defect Description

ON CERTAIN MOTOR COACHES EQUIPPED WITH DETROIT DIESEL SERIES 60 ENGINES, THE TURBOCHARGER COMPRESSORS CAN FAIL.

Consequence

A FIRE CAN RESULT SHOULD THE TURBOCHARGER FAIL.

Remedy

DETROIT DIESEL IS CONDUCTING THIS RECALL (PLEASE SEE 06E019000) AND WILL REMEDY THESE MOTOR COACHES. THE ENGINES WILL BE REPAIRED FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DETROIT DIESEL AT 313-592-3708 OR MOTOR COACH AT 866-624-2622.

4,765 vehicles affected

Manufacturer: MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES, INC

No complaints found for this vehicle.

Technical Service Bulletins — 2003 MCI D4505

8 manufacturer communications from 5 unique bulletins. TSBs describe known problems and recommended fixes from the manufacturer.

Most Affected Components

Component	Bulletins
980000 UNKNOWN OR OTHER	2
105100 POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:UNIVERSAL JOINT	1
105300 POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DRIVESHAFT	1
102000 POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION	1
103000 POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION	1
103100 POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM/PCM/TECM)	1
110000 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM	1

110000 ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

This Service Bulletin informs owners of the procedure to clean the batteries and reapply corrosion inhibitor every 6000 miles or 3 months, whichever first occurs.

980000 UNKNOWN OR OTHER

MOTOR COACH INDUDSTRIES: INFORMATION ON REPLACING THE COOLANT PUMP THAT MAY HAVE A PROBLEM. *RM

102000 POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION

MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES SERVICE CAMPAIGN: SEE DOCUMENT SEARCH BUTTON FOR OWNER LETTER. THERE MAY BE A HARSH DOWNSHIFT, RPM FLARE, OR THE TRANSMISSION MAY LOCK. *RM

103000 POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES SERVICE CAMPAIGN: SEE DOCUMENT SEARCH BUTTON FOR OWNER LETTER. THERE MAY BE A HARSH DOWNSHIFT, RPM FLARE, OR THE TRANSMISSION MAY LOCK. *RM

103100 POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM/PCM/TECM)

MOTOR COACH INDUSTRIES SERVICE CAMPAIGN: SEE DOCUMENT SEARCH BUTTON FOR OWNER LETTER. THERE MAY BE A HARSH DOWNSHIFT, RPM FLARE, OR THE TRANSMISSION MAY LOCK. *RM

105100 POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:UNIVERSAL JOINT

MOTOR COACH: TAG AXLE/DRIVESHAFT INTERFERENCE-FIXED TAG AXLE. INTERFERENCE DUE TO LIMITED CLEARANCE BETWEEN DRIVE SHAFT U JOINT BEARING CAP BOLTS AND TAG AXLE CENTER BEAM. MODEL YEARS UNKNOWN. *PE

105300 POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DRIVESHAFT

MOTOR COACH: TAG AXLE/DRIVESHAFT INTERFERENCE-FIXED TAG AXLE. INTERFERENCE DUE TO LIMITED CLEARANCE BETWEEN DRIVE SHAFT U JOINT BEARING CAP BOLTS AND TAG AXLE CENTER BEAM. MODEL YEARS UNKNOWN. *PE

980000 UNKNOWN OR OTHER

There are no Manufacturer Communications in accordance with 49 CFR 579.5 to report for April 2024 for Motor Coach Industries.

NHTSA Safety Investigations — MCI D4505

Investigations opened by NHTSA into potential safety defects. These are separate from recalls and may or may not result in a recall.

PE — Closed — Model Year: 2011

Tailpipe seperation resulting in fire

During the review of Motor Coach Industries (MCI) Early Warning Reporting (EWR) 2016 Q4 data, field reports were identified that described fires on 2 buses from different regions of the country.These fires were alleged to have occurred as a result of a loose clamp allowing the tailpipe to separate f... rom the exhaust after treatment assembly.During exhaust after treatment regeneration high temperature gases were directed at the plastic rear bumper.Prior to the fires, there were no indications (such as soot trails) that the clamps were loose.When contacted, the fleet maintenance manager stated all maintenance schedules and DOT inspections had been performed without a failure citation of the exhaust systems. MCI addressed the issue by installing additional brackets to the pipe on all the other buses in the fleet ensuring the tailpipe stayed intact should the clamp lose torque.In correspondence with another fleet using the same style bus, the fleet safety manager described having loose clamps resulting in fires.The MCI fix for the second fleet was to install a shield at the rear bumper to deflect the high temperature exhaust gases in the event of the tailpipe separated from the exhaust after treatment system.This fix was different from the first fleet.During review of communications submitted in March 2017, the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) identified MCI Service Bulletin No. 309 regarding a maintenance procedure of the exhaust system Torca Accuseal clamp.This bulletin instructed that a new clamp must be utilized after any service or maintenance is performed in which the existing clamp was loosened or removed.ODI requested further information on this bulletin and received warranty claims showing loose tailpipes.MCI has taken the position that fires at the clamp location were due to improper maintenance by the fleets.After analysis of data, provided by MCI to ODI in response to an information request letter, ODI found there was not an increasing number (claim rate of 1.1%) of failures and fires even with portions of the fleet having over seven years in service.The 4 fires identified were from 2 fleets.ODI contacted the fleets with fire incidents and was informed that one of the two buses involved in the fire incidents was sold in 2016 and other fleet does not have maintenance records since they only keep records for one year.ODI is closing the investigation as no actionable trend has been identified.This investigation is closed. Further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted. The closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by NHTSA that a safety-related defect does not exist. The agency reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.Read more

MCI D4505 — All Years Overview

Complete safety history for the MCI D4505 across all model years (2000–2022).

135 Total Recalls

1 Total Complaints

1 Investigations

0 Reported Crashes

0 Reported Fires

0 Reported Deaths

MCI D4505 — Year by Year

Compare recalls and complaints across model years. Click any year to see full details.

Year	Recalls	Complaints
2022	1	0	View
2021	2	0	View
2020	7	0	View
2019	8	0	View
2018	7	0	View
2017	5	1	View
2016	4	0	View
2015	8	0	View
2014	7	0	View
2013	6	0	View
2012	8	0	View
2011	8	0	View
2010	10	0	View
2009	9	0	View
2008	9	0	View
2007	11	0	View
2006	11	0	View
2005	6	0	View
2004	2	0	View
2003 (current)	2	0
2002	2	0	View
2001	1	0	View
2000	1	0	View

Other MCI Models

Model	Recalls	Complaints
102A3	0	0	View
102B3	0	0	View
102C3	0	0	View
102D	0	0	View
102D3	0	0	View
102D3ISTV	0	0	View
102DL	0	0	View
102DL3	0	0	View