Consumer Safety Complaints

Search 2,245,377 safety complaints filed by vehicle owners with NHTSA, including 140,173 crashes, 56,794 fires, and 8,580 deaths.

2,245,377 Total Complaints
140,173 Reported Crashes
56,794 Reported Fires
8,580 Reported Deaths

What is a NHTSA consumer complaint?

A consumer complaint is a free-form report filed by a vehicle owner directly to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) describing a safety concern about their vehicle. NHTSA collects these reports through its Vehicle Owner Defect Report (VOQ) system and publishes them publicly. Each complaint includes the affected component, the date and circumstances of the incident, whether the failure caused a crash or fire, and any reported injuries or deaths. The owner's full narrative description is included verbatim, NHTSA does not edit or moderate the descriptions.

The database below contains over 2,245,377 individual complaints. NHTSA's investigators monitor it for clusters of similar reports, when enough owners describe the same failure mode on the same vehicle, NHTSA may open a Preliminary Evaluation that can lead to a recall. Many of the largest recalls in U.S. history, including the Takata airbag recall and the Hyundai/Kia engine fire recalls, started as patterns visible in this complaint database years before they became formal recalls.

How to interpret what you read

A few principles for reading consumer complaints usefully:

  • One complaint is anecdote; a hundred similar complaints is data. NHTSA does not investigate the truthfulness of any individual report, that's the job of the Office of Defects Investigation, which looks at the full pattern. When evaluating a vehicle, look for whether multiple owners describe the same chain of events.
  • Crash, fire, injury, and death flags are owner-set. They are not verified by NHTSA. They are still useful as a filter, because owners who tick those boxes are typically reporting more serious incidents than those who don't.
  • Component categories are NHTSA-assigned, not owner-assigned. NHTSA standardizes the component field so that complaints can be aggregated. The owner narrative often goes into more detail than the component category captures.
  • Complaint volume scales with sales volume. A best-selling model will accumulate more raw complaints than a niche model even at the same defect rate. To compare across vehicles, look at complaints per 100,000 units sold, not raw counts.

If you've experienced a defect

File a complaint. NHTSA's investigators rely on this database to detect emerging defects, and useful complaints, specific, concrete, with dates and mileage and clear descriptions of what happened, feed directly into the agency's pattern detection. The form takes about 10 minutes and is at nhtsa.gov/recalls under "Report a Safety Problem." Your complaint becomes part of the same public record that this page is built from. Owners filing detailed VOQs are how recalls get triggered.

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Showing 49,794 complaints for VOLKSWAGEN

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF SPORTWAGEN (2019) - ENGINE Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 17, 2023
My brand new car stalled in the middle of traffic; as I proceeded to step on the gas peddle after yielding -- the car completely stoped as is I hit a wall, it jerk roughly and completely stopped. At first I thought someone rear-ended me, but that wasn't the case, the car just stalled, and the "Audi Pressure Sensor" warning flashed across the screen in Bright Big Letters for a few seconds, and once... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE: AUTOMATIC EMERGENCY BRAKING Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 20, 2023
My Ram 3500 DRW has about 45000 miles and it now requires the replacement of the hydraulic control unit (HCU) and the anti-lock braking system (ABS) module. I discovered this issue prior to the warning light flashing and sounding when I had to do sudden braking in order to avoid an obstacle in the road encountered during a storm last week. I just barely got my Ram to stop and not swerve off into t... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 20, 2023
Gas leak and can be dangerous, start a fire, I know this Land Rover flange is a recall in Land Rover lr4 and Range Rover sport but this should be a recall for Land Rover lr2 as well, same vehicle part having issues The contact stated that the vehicle is sitting at the dealership awaiting repairs.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 20, 2023
Gas leak and can be dangerous, start a fire, I know this Land Rover flange is a recall in Land Rover lr4 and Range Rover sport but this should be a recall for Land Rover lr2 as well, same vehicle part having issues The contact stated that the vehicle is sitting at the dealership awaiting repairs.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Dec 24, 2022
THE CAR WOULD NOT START DUE TO THE THROTTLEBODY FAILED TO OPERATE. LUCKILY, THE CAR WAS PARKED WHEN THIS OCCURED AND HAD TO BE TOWED TO NEAREST FORD DEALER. WHO INFORMED ME IF I HAD BEEN DRIVING AND IT HAD FAILED DURING OPERATION, CAR WOULD HAVE COME TO A DEAD STOP WHILE DRIVING AND/OR IN MY CASE FAILED TO START. THEY SAID THROTTLEBODY GIVES THE ENGINE THE AIR IT NEEDS TO PREFORM. WE WERE OUT OF T... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE: ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Feb 4, 2023
We recently traveled about 300 miles on a roadtrip in this Tesla and while using the adaptive cruise control, the car would randomly slam on the brakes for no apparent reason. There was nothing in the road or any hazards at all. Also, it was not just a one time thing. It happened multiple times before I decided to not use the cruise control because it to dangerous.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - BACK OVER PREVENTION Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 11, 2023
The contact owns a 2019 Lincoln Continental. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V644000 (Back Over Prevention) however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The local dealer was contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not made aware of the issue. The conta... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - BACK OVER PREVENTION Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 16, 2023
The contact owns a 2020 Mercedes-Benz GLC300. The contact stated that the rearview camera displayed a reverse mirror image. The contact related the failure to NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V232000 (Back Over Prevention). The vehicle was not diagnosed nor repaired by an independent mechanic or dealer. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 60,000.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - BACK OVER PREVENTION Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 16, 2023
The contact owns a 2018 Honda Ridgeline. The contact stated that the rear-view camera screen displayed a black image when the vehicle was shifted into reverse. The contact then received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V867000 (Back Over Prevention); however, the part to do the recall repair was unavailable. The local dealer was contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had excee... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE CONVERTIBLE (2015) - VISIBILITY:WINDSHIELD Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 20, 2023
The contact owns a 2021 Jeep Wrangler. The contact stated that while operating the vehicle, the engine fan would suddenly turn on and the engine temperature gauge would rise with the message that the engine had overheated. The contact stated that during the failure the vehicle would suddenly decelerate to protect the engine. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who indicated that the engine t... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TIGUAN (2021) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Mar 20, 2023
In 2017, I participated in Toyotas frame recall where they determined that the frame didn’t need to be replaced and the dealership applied corrosion resistant undercoating. The frame has now developed a large 11inch visible crack and holes that will prevent it from passing state safety inspection. I contacted Toyota about the failure but they said they were unable to address it as this time due... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TIGUAN (2022) - ENGINE Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Jul 20, 2022
I was involved in a MINOR motor vehicle accident. 9/21/2022 during the accident my 2017 ford fiesta suffered considerable damage(which I was ticketed for, they said wreckless driving.. I wasn't speeding and I have police reports to back this up). The car did its job and no one was substantially hurt. When I got a chance to look at the car further I noticed the passenger side motor mount(plate n... Read more
Crash 3 injured
VOLKSWAGEN TIGUAN (2022) - AIR BAGS Mar 20, 2023
Incident date: Jul 20, 2022
My 2013 Nissan Altima had a malfunctioning air bag which "could or could not" deploy correctly, and at any time. I had to pay $2800.00 for replacement of this serious safety issue, and Nissan will not reimburse me. This air bag had simply stopped operating correctly, it had never been deployed. At the time of replacement the car had 86,000. I had no choice about replacing it unless I wanted my... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (2019) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 1, 2023
This is a complaint for a unique occurrence of this problem on this date. In some instances, it seems that the ventilation system is potentially pulling noxious fumes in from the engine bay and in others, there seems to be an issue with moisture retention when AC is run. The vehicle seems to force foul smelling air in to the cab. Honda has failed to properly troubleshoot the issue (i.e. retain the... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (2019) - STEERING Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 1, 2023
while setting in a fast food restaurant drive thru for 1 minute on 03/14/2023. I was asked to pull forward and could not steer my car. I pulled straight ahead to get out of the lane and couldn't steer left or right. I shut the car off for a moment, restarted and the steering works fine. I know that this car has electric assist power steering. I googled the problem with this model and found that ma... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (2019) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 1, 2023
This is a complaint for a unique occurrence of this problem on this date. In some instances, it seems that the ventilation system is potentially pulling noxious fumes in from the engine bay and in others, there seems to be an issue with moisture retention when AC is run. The vehicle seems to force foul smelling air in to the cab. Honda has failed to properly troubleshoot the issue (i.e. retain th... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2018) - SERVICE BRAKES Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 17, 2023
WARNING INDICATOR LIGHT FOR SERVICE ABS / TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT COMES ON INTERMITTENTLY. WE USE THIS VRHICLE TO PULL A 5TH WHEEL TRAILER AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BRAKE FAILURE.
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - FUEL/PROPULSION SYSTEM Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 19, 2023
The fuel tank has a broken flap in the filler neck. Per the NHTSA ID # below, this issue is a known issue. My vehicle is experiencing this issue and will not allow me to put fuel into my car. I am unclear why the NHTSA feels that this is just a technical bulletin rather than a recall. Why should the consumer be subject to replacing a faulting known design by the manufacturer, Audi, in this case. I... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE: WARNINGS Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 19, 2023
THE VDC SYSTEM COMES ON TO ALERT OF ACCIDENT WHEN IT SHOULD NOT TOOK TO DEALER TWICE AND THEY ADVISE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION Mar 19, 2023
Incident date: Mar 19, 2023
When I turn on the turn signal, Tesla displays the side repeater camera on the screen, which allows me to see if there is a car in the blind spot. In addition to the video on the screen, I believe the side repeater cameras are used by the onboard computer to determine whether there is a car in the blind spot (in which case it would display the lane in red and shows a car drawing on the screen). As... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT (2017) - WHEELS Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Dec 14, 2022
My jeep Cherokee have a 4wd warning indication services need. It automatically shifts my power train to snow. Also when in park. The vehicle starts to go to neutral. Please recall this. My car is 2015 Jeep Cherokee trailhawk. I’ve never had an accident and this is either a system glitch or engine issue that can cause damage and injury.
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT (2017) - BACK OVER PREVENTION: WARNINGS Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Dec 14, 2022
My jeep Cherokee have a 4wd warning indication services need. It automatically shifts my power train to snow. Also when in park. The vehicle starts to go to neutral. Please recall this. My car is 2015 Jeep Cherokee trailhawk. I’ve never had an accident and this is either a system glitch or engine issue that can cause damage and injury.
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT (2017) - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Dec 14, 2022
Battery has drained drastically twice to the point of the car dying while just waiting for some takeout
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - ENGINE Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Mar 3, 2023
Bought a brand new Tesla model Y with 11 miles on it. 1 mile down the road it tells me to “pull over immediately” “reduced power” I was going 45 mph downhill and thankfully not a lot of cars around. I pulled over and it said reduced power, exit and enter vehicle to restore operation. I did and it worked fine. I drove home with no problems for 25 miles. An hour later I was headed somewhere ... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - POWER TRAIN Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Mar 3, 2023
Bought a brand new Tesla model Y with 11 miles on it. 1 mile down the road it tells me to “pull over immediately” “reduced power” I was going 45 mph downhill and thankfully not a lot of cars around. I pulled over and it said reduced power, exit and enter vehicle to restore operation. I did and it worked fine. I drove home with no problems for 25 miles. An hour later I was headed somewhere ... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2021) - ENGINE Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Mar 3, 2023
I am wondering when GM is gonna admit fault on these Chevy Cruzes? My mechanic father owns one. He's had to replace Valve cover gasket on his 3x. Mine at least 4-5x now. One bad oil change at a dealership almost cost me my engine at Sunfair Chevrolet. They left 2 rings on the oil fuel filter causing it to leak all over my engine compartment which left me roadside the next day after driving it 2 ho... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT (2014) - POWER TRAIN Mar 18, 2023
Incident date: Mar 9, 2023
2nd time putting car in shop to fix the parking sensor. When you place the vehicle in park get a alert to place vehicle in park. Had it repaired once and problem is back. Have to shift to park several times before it will work properly. Already paid once to repair it and the dealer said it's a common problem. I think a recall is needed. I called the dealer and the service advisor said a new ... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2019) - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Mar 17, 2023
Incident date: Jan 1, 2020
All the warning lights started displaying on the dashboard over the course of six months. One day they would all start coming up one at time, then when I would turn off the vehicle for an extended amount of time, they were no longer there. Finally at my oil change appointment I brought up the issue and I was told it was a fuel injector issue. Apparently they’ve had many CR-V owners come in with ... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2021) - LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES Mar 17, 2023
Incident date: Nov 26, 2022
Front Driver and Passenger door can not be opened from the inside or outside. Locking mechanism doesn't work. I've tried Unlocking the door with remote, button in the car, manually in the car and sticking the key in the actual door itself. When I pull on the handles nothing happens. You can hear the actuator working inside the doors, and the manual door lock knob goes up and down, but neither fron... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (2018) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 17, 2023
Incident date: Mar 16, 2023
The roof rack appears to be leaking and water is coming into the car. The glove box was saturated with water and there was a puddle on the floor. There is water in the headliner. We're concerned about the side impact airbags no longer working and the wiring harness. I'm not sure how long it has been leaking but it was only just discovered yesterday.
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF (2022) - ENGINE Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 15, 2023
The contact owns a 2015 Volkswagen Jetta. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, there was a humming and knocking sound coming from the engine compartment. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who was unable to duplicate the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was also notified of the failure, but no assistance was offered. The failure mileage was 77,000.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 (2023) - FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE: AUTOMATIC EMERGENCY BRAKING Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 16, 2023
Transmission on these fords are bad!!!!not only me but everyone I know with a ford focus has had some issue with their transmission. My car has spontaneously stopped driving while kids in car. Transmission fault service light and engine light will immediately come on when car starts or it will give you about 1 mile to drive before it shuts car down. Recently dealership “fixed recalls” fuel tan... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - STEERING Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 6, 2023
Steering system console. Remove and replace rack and pinion assembly
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 6, 2023
All features of the radio and heating and cooling system on my vehicle Do not properly work. The heat will switch to air at full blast without touching anything. The radio will switch between channels or stop working. You also cannot touch the screen to toggle. Or just the volume. this is extremely dangerous as it happens out of nowhere as you are driving. It is clear when looking online that this... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - ENGINE Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 6, 2023
The engine cracked during the negative degree weather during Christmas Eve and the spark plugs were broken in half also as a result to this. Not sure if it is from the oil change that was done or if it was from the weather. But as a result the vehicle has been sitting due to this terrible mishap. I did get regular oil changes so I feel that this is not something that should have happen. But when t... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TIGUAN (2022) - ENGINE Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 15, 2023
The contact owns a 2022 Ford Maverick. The contact stated that the check engine warning light was illuminated. The contact stated that while driving, the vehicle was running rough. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V594000 (Air Bags) however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer and was diagnosed with engine a... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TIGUAN (2022) - AIR BAGS Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 15, 2023
The contact owns a 2022 Ford Maverick. The contact stated that the check engine warning light was illuminated. The contact stated that while driving, the vehicle was running rough. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V594000 (Air Bags) however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer and was diagnosed with engine a... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA (2015) - VISIBILITY:DEFROSTER/DEFOGGER/HVAC SYSTEM Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Mar 1, 2023
Vehicle does not blow hot air while in idle/parked when Vehicle is turned on or use remote start. Kia dealership could not find issues. Heat works while driving but once but into parked vehicle instantly goes lukewarm. Not ideal at bus stop with kids in the car nor if stranded on the road in Michigan winters; could be fatal.
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE (2016) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 16, 2023
Incident date: Feb 23, 2023
While driving, the speakers suddenly started blaring a persistent noise at full volume. It nearly caused me to run the car off the road. I had to cover my ears while trying to find a place to safely pull the car off the road all while trying to plug my ears. Turning off the radio didn't stop the noise. Turning off the car and opening the door didn't stop the noise either. The noise finally stopped... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN TAOS (2022) - VISIBILITY Mar 15, 2023
Incident date: Mar 15, 2023
The contact owns a 2020 Ford F-250. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V250000 (Visibility). The dealer was made aware of the issue and declined to perform the recall repair unless the windshield wiper arms were faulty. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure. Parts distribution disconnect.
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF (2017) - ENGINE Mar 15, 2023
Incident date: Mar 8, 2023
I am the original owner and when my vehicle reached approximately 65,000 miles just past the warranty the oil service light would come on sometimes then go out. i have had documented oil changes from my dealer approximately every 3500 miles. Everything seems to be normal in the car and the oil level checked on a regular basis is always ok. When the RPM rises above 2000 rpm the oil service light go... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2019) - ENGINE Mar 15, 2023
Incident date: Mar 15, 2023
Hybrid system failed while driving resulting vehicle becoming disabled on the road. Took to GM shop, they informed that the Hybrid System failed. Parts are unavailable because GM discontinued them. GM shop is not willing to replace with used battery due to the lack of reliability “we would have the same problem just a few miles down the road”. GM shop bipassed hybrid system resulting in the ve... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2018) - UNKNOWN OR OTHER Mar 14, 2023
Incident date: Apr 1, 2021
Right rear axle bolt sheared. See https://www.f150forum.com/f129/2021-powerboost-rear-rotor-axle-bolt-sheared-515460
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2018) - VISIBILITY/WIPER Mar 14, 2023
Incident date: Mar 14, 2023
Ball joint for wiper assembly just "pops off" while in use causing wipers to stop working. I have taken vehicle apart, fixed the issue ( reconnecting the ball joint) and issue happens again. I understand the vehicle is from 2012, but uses same part 2010-2017, which is currently a recall on 2013-2015 models. First occurrence of this issue was July 02, 2019. I brought to GMC dealer, they said the... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS CROSS SPORT (2020) - STRUCTURE:INTERIOR PANELS:DASHBOARD Mar 14, 2023
Incident date: Mar 12, 2023
The contact owns a 2013 Ford Edge. The contact stated that the dashboard was cracked nearby the passenger's side air bag compartment. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where it was determined that the dashboard needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 178,000.
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2018) - ENGINE Mar 13, 2023
Incident date: Feb 6, 2023
CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON CATALYTIC CONVERTER, AIR BAG LIGHT IS ON, SLOW TO ACCELERATE CVT IS ACTING UP
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2018) - POWER TRAIN Mar 13, 2023
Incident date: Feb 6, 2023
CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON CATALYTIC CONVERTER, AIR BAG LIGHT IS ON, SLOW TO ACCELERATE CVT IS ACTING UP
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2019) - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Mar 13, 2023
Incident date: Jan 4, 2021
A couple of months ago, I noticed water had somehow entered the inside of my car, collecting along the interior roof panel and inside the C-pillar close to the top of the driver door. I did a little research to see if I could figure out what the cause of it was. I found that many other owners of 2019 and 2020 Rav4's had similar problems. Their findings indicated that Toyota had equipped poor qu... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2019) - STRUCTURE:BODY Mar 13, 2023
Incident date: Jan 4, 2021
A couple of months ago, I noticed water had somehow entered the inside of my car, collecting along the interior roof panel and inside the C-pillar close to the top of the driver door. I did a little research to see if I could figure out what the cause of it was. I found that many other owners of 2019 and 2020 Rav4's had similar problems. Their findings indicated that Toyota had equipped poor qu... Read more
VOLKSWAGEN ATLAS (2019) - FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE: WARNINGS Mar 13, 2023
Incident date: Jan 4, 2021
A couple of months ago, I noticed water had somehow entered the inside of my car, collecting along the interior roof panel and inside the C-pillar close to the top of the driver door. I did a little research to see if I could figure out what the cause of it was. I found that many other owners of 2019 and 2020 Rav4's had similar problems. Their findings indicated that Toyota had equipped poor qu... Read more
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